My cmnt: As a born and raised Arminian and now a Calvinist I did a lot of study and prayer (years) before God enabled me to accept the truth. The following explanation by Piper is a good one and so I post it here. However I would approach it slightly differently than Piper (see my post The Gospel Explained). What finally got me over the top, so to speak, was the realization that God and the scriptures view us as DEAD not just sick. A dead man has no will, no volition, no choices, no decisions, no nothing (or anything for those into proper grammar). We are like zombies who think we are alive but are in fact dead. Unless God the Holy Spirit actually, sovereignly raises us from spiritual death into spiritual life we will not, nay cannot, seek God. The Gospel is the very smell of death to those who are perishing but (conversely) the very fragrance of life to those who are being saved (2 Cor 2:14-16).
From Desiring God – by John Piper – Aug 11, 2015 –
A listener to the podcast, Peter from Seattle, writes in: “Pastor John, what is the main difference between Calvinism and Arminianism? I’m trying to explain this difference to my 13-year-old son and would love to boil it down to one or two watershed differences. What would those be?”
Getting to the Point(s)
Okay, I am going to give him more than he asked for. Then I am going to give him what he asked for. I think it will be helpful for me to walk through the so-called five points because these five points are what the Arminian Remonstrants in 1610 threw back at the Calvinists.
“Calvinism says that we are chosen. God chooses unconditionally whom he will mercifully bring to faith.”
The Calvinists didn’t come up with five points to start with. The Calvinists wrote their vision of what salvation looks like and how it happens under God’s sovereignty. When the Arminians read it, they said, “These are five places we don’t agree.” That is where we got these five points.
So, if you want to talk about what is the key soteriological differences between Arminianism and Calvinism, you have to take these one by one. Here is what I will do. I will give one sentence for each — Calvinism and Arminianism — under the five points, and then I will say what I would say to my 13-year-old.
1. Depravity
Calvinism says people are so depraved and rebellious that they are unable to trust God without his special work of grace to change their hearts so that they necessarily and willingly — freely — believe.
Arminians say, with regard to depravity, that people are depraved and corrupt, but they are able to provide the decisive impulse to trust God with the general divine assistance that God gives to everybody.
2. Election
Calvinism says that we are chosen. God chooses unconditionally whom he will mercifully bring to faith and whom he will justly leave in their rebellion.
Arminians say God has chosen us — elected to bring to salvation — all those whom he foresaw would believe by bringing about their own faith and providing the decisive impetus themselves. In those, God doesn’t decisively produce the faith that he foresees.
3. Atonement
Calvinism says that in the death of Christ, God provided sufficient atonement for all but designed that it be effective for the elect — meaning that Christ’s death purchased for them the new-covenant promise that God would bring about in his people faith and perseverance.
Arminians say that in the death of Christ, God provided sufficient atonement for all and designed that it would become effective by virtue of faith for which we — not Christ — provide the decisive impetus. Meaning, faith itself is not purchased by the cross, but that it is the human means of obtaining what the cross purchased — namely, forgiveness of sins.
4. New Birth
Calvinists say that the new birth is God’s work of renewal in our hearts that necessarily brings about the act of willing, hearty, saving faith.
Arminians say the new birth is God’s work of renewal in our hearts in response to our act of saving faith.
5. Perseverance
Calvinists say God works infallibly to preserve us in faith — all of us who are truly born again — and that no one is ever lost who was truly born of God.
Arminians say God works to preserve his people, but he does not always prevent some who were born again from falling away to destruction.
Naming Faith
So, what is the one thing a dad would say to a son? Those are all heavy. Those words are carefully chosen. Those words would be hard to get, and they might need years to work through that. I did a seminar on the five points.
Let me close with a question, trying to answer the question that the dad asked. I would like to say that the one key difference is the sovereignty of God, but that won’t work, because the Arminians won’t like that since they affirm the sovereignty of God too. They just mean something a little more limited by it.
“The Calvinist says, ‘The decisive cause of my faith was God,’ and the Arminian says, ‘The decisive cause of my faith was myself.’”
So, here is what I would say to my 13-year-old. I would say the key difference is how we get saved. The key difference between a Calvinist and an Arminian is how they understand how we get saved — that is, how we move from a condition of spiritual unbelief to a condition of heartfelt belief or faith in Christ.
And the key difference is this: Calvinists believe that God has to produce in us the decisive desire for Christ. Arminians believe we must produce in ourselves the decisive desire for Christ. The Arminians say that God helps us. He helps all people, but we provide the last, decisive impetus and desire for that belief.
I might say it like this: you can tell if someone is an Arminian or a Calvinist by how they answer the question “What was the decisive cause of your faith in Christ?” So, you go up to somebody, and you ask, “What was the decisive cause of your faith in Christ? Was it God, or was it yourself?” The Calvinist says, “The decisive cause of my faith was God,” and the Arminian says, “The decisive cause of my faith in Christ was myself.
”John Piper (@JohnPiper) is founder and teacher of desiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary. For 33 years, he served as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota. He is author of more than 50 books, including Desiring God: Meditations of a Christian Hedonist and most recently Foundations for Lifelong Learning: Education in Serious Joy.
Response part 1: One thing only is needful, and better Mary’s choice.
Mathematicians love double negatives, because sometimes the non-negatives are more accurate than the positives (including the zero on one side vs the other). Here are some relevant ones to this controversy:
No man can say that with God any enduring good is impossible.
No man can say that apart from God any enduring good is possible.
My personal take on the debate is mostly diagnostic:
If any good work was done, God must have been its author.
If any evil work was done, God cannot have been its author.
Similarly my takes on belief:
If any man thinks he has any faith, let him add to it increasingly.
If any man thinks he lacks in faith, let him ask to receive more.
And above all, the resounding positive declaration:
Let all men “in coming to God believe that He exists and that he rewards generously those who earnestly seek Him”.
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Dear (Un)Invited, I really appreciate your comments. God be with you. I can tell that you have a keen mind and godly heart. Blessings and peace be upon you and your family and your endeavors. LB
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